which came along by the rod of iron, even to the tree by which I stood; and it also led by the head of the fountain, unto a large and spacious field, as if it had been a world. Verse 1: it seems clear that they lived in the Valley for quite some time. There is another implication here: sacks of seeds are heavy. . Thanks . 1 And all these things did my father see, and hear, and speak, as he dwelt in a tent, in the valley of Lemuel, [For many, the most sacred places for receiving revelation is our own homes. 1 Nephi 8:1 1 And it came to pass that we had gathered together all manner of seeds of every kind, both of grain of every kind, and also of the seeds of fruit of every kind. We often see different things. 6 And it came to pass that he spake unto me, and bade me follow him. Sign in. 8 à 10 :39 Chapitre 8. I wonder why it is always the fruit that symbolizes something great to desire. [They had brought various dried fruit and grains. ← Family of Ishmael – 1 Nephi 7:1-22. L'OEUVRE MEDIATRICE DE LA NOUVELLE ALLIANCE Ch. I too have had dreams that make me deeply question the future and my relationships, that do not simply manifest but engender worry and joy. Nephi₁’s vision of “a virgin, most beautiful and fair above all other virgins” who was “the mother of God, after the manner of the flesh” (1 Nephi 11:15, 18; 1830 edition) is connected to Lehi₁’s vision of a “a tree, whose fruit was desirable to make one happy” (1 Nephi 8:10). ], 15 And it came to pass that I beckoned unto them; and I also did say unto them with a loud voice that they should come unto me, and partake of the fruit, which was desirable above all other fruit. I have great fondness for this visionary man. [The children of the Everlasting Covenant are given many opportunities to come unto Christ. Article L1242-8-1. 1 Nephi 21. We should gather truth wherever we find it and use prudence to apply what is good to our lives. Rachel M. Crandall says: December 9, 2018 at 5:39 pm. Every person is susceptible to this mist of darkness unless they grab hold of the rod. How do these other religions, that seem to have been around forever, fit into the big picture? 27 And it was filled with people, both old and young, both male and female; [Many levels in  Satan’s realm.] It is possible that they returned, secretly, to their own country estate where they could obtain all the provisions—including seeds—that they needed, without foraging into the countryside and taking anything that did not belong to them. This doesn’t describe the full picture of becoming a son of perdition. You are here: Home » Seminary » Book of Mormon » Lessons » Week Three » 1 Nephi 8. 22 And it came to pass that they did come forth, and commence in the path which led to the tree. I like this additional insight in verse 30: (at the feet of Christ) …they did press their way forward, continually holding fast to the rod of iron, until they came forth and fell down (Second Comforter) [at the feet of Christ] and partook of the fruit of the tree. And I said I behold many nations and kingdoms. Lehi’s Dream gave him comfort and understanding regarding his family and how the Adversary operates. ← Lehi’s Dream – 1 Nephi 8:1-38. [This verse says much about Lehi’s style of parenting. ( Log Out /  If it pulls us away from Christ it is to be avoided. <><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><>, The Book of Mormon as an Ancient Israelite Temple, 1 Nephi 4:6-8 — LeGrand Baker — Laban and the Apostasy. 1 Nephi 15. Nephi and His Asherah: A Note on 1 Nephi 11:8-23. I remember as a kid watching the living scriptures of this dream and seeing lamen and lemuel in the great and spacious building partying it up. My vision of the Tree of Life had different details, some were the same, some things they saw I didn’t. “Three Days and Three Nights: Reassessing Jesus’s Entombment.” Journal of Book of Mormon Studies 17, no. 1 Nephi 8:1 All Manner of Seeds of Every Kind: Hugh Nibley claims that Lehi's party took grain with them and "all manner of seed of every kind" (1 Nephi 8:1). Seeds of Fruit: While journeying in the wilderness, Lehi dreams about a dark and dreary wilderness and a tree of life. Windows » Utilitaires » Nero » Nero 8.1.1.0. which led unto the tree by which I stood. The key is to ask and discover the meaning to the dream.]. How can you prepare the way of the Lord using your unique talents and circumstances? Thank you for the time you take to share this information! a great and spacious building; [The kingdom of the Adversary.] Thank you for the time you take to share this information! 1 Nephi 8 - Online Resources for teachers and leaders of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. Introduction; Witnesses; Preserve the Righteous; Hidden Records; 1 Nephi. The most common misconception is that as long as we hold to our scriptures and church authorities (iron rod) we will be safe from the mists of darkness. [No person, once having grabbed hold of the rod fails to come to the tree.]. 1 Nephi 17. 1 Nephi 5. Reading Nephi – 8:1-8. by James Olsen • December 2, 2015 • 3 Comments. [See the commentary on Lehi's dream of the Tree of Life -- 1 Nephi 8] 1 Nephi 1:4 Lehi (Illustration): Potsherd found in 1938 on the Gulf of Aqaba, dating from approximately the time of Lehi, and bearing the name Lehi (from BASOR, #80, 1940). [Lehi saw a different vision than Nephi. 1 Nephi 12:5 “judgments of the Lord ” is the same in Psalm 19:9. [The fruit is Eternal Life, which is given to those who receive the gift of the Holy Ghost, but not fully realized until they ascend to the Third Heaven. Nephi mentions none of these, being concerned that we know only of the leaders of the party. “21 And I saw numberless concourses of people, many of whom were pressing forward, that they might obtain the path [Those who seek the path will find it.]”. [become sons or daughters of perdition], 29 And now I, Nephi, do not speak all the words of my father. 3 Nephi 8:1. Is it a dark iron color or is it lighter? 1 Nephi 8; 1 Nephi 9; 1 Nephi 10; 1 Nephi 11; 1 Nephi 12; 1 Nephi 13; 1 Nephi 14; 1 Nephi 15; 1 Nephi 16; 1 Nephi 17; 1 Nephi 18; 1 Nephi 19; 1 Nephi 20; 1 Nephi 21; 1 Nephi 22; 2 Nephi; Jacob; Enos; Jarom ; Omni; Words of Mormon; Mosiah; Alma; Helaman; 3 Nephi; 4 Nephi; Mormon; Ether; Moroni; 1 Nephi 11. 23 And it came to pass that there arose a mist of darkness; yea, even an exceedingly great mist of darkness, insomuch that they who had commenced in the path did lose their way, that they wandered off and were lost. ( Log Out /  Seeds of Every Kind . PR]. 17 And it came to pass that I was desirous that Laman and Lemuel should come and partake of the fruit also; wherefore, I cast mine eyes towards the head of the river, that perhaps I might see them. 37 And he did exhort them then with all the feeling of a tender parent, that they would hearken to his words, that perhaps the Lord would be merciful to them, and not cast them off; yea, my father did preach unto them. We will read all about this when we study 3 Nephi 8. Does it change our physical and/or spiritual body? 1 Néphi 8 . 1 (2007): 56–63, 86. This is often the pattern for those seeking divine guidance. Often, we are allowed to be deceived that we may know the good from the evil.] Avant de commencer. Nephi Desires to See – 1 Nephi 10:1-22 → An Epic Record – 1 Nephi 9:1-6. (See Moses 1:10, Daniel 8:27, Daniel 10:8, 1 Nephi 17:47) Ammon and his converts passed out because the Spirit was so strong. 20 And I also beheld a strait and narrow path, [This path represents the commandments, the church, and all things which can help guide us in our journey.] Reading Nephi – 8:1-8. by James Olsen • December 2, 2015 • 3 Comments. I began to pray unto the Lord that he would have mercy on me, according to the multitude of his tender mercies. Gradual Infidelity, sounds to me like a process of slowly or gradually participating of something forbidden, or desiring that which is not of the light, Godliness “No man can serve two masters: for either he will hate the one, and love the other; or else he will hold to the one, and despise the other. The seeds of the fruit will become a part of you and make room for you to plant your own tree in the Garden of Heaven as you prepare to make way for your own posterity. He began to feel the need for God’s help. 1 Nephi 4. It seemed to be a dark grey and palm width, but I don’t remember how it was fastened to the ground or not. Change ). It seems that when we receive the Gift of the Holy Ghost that we are also bestowed with the gift of charity (begin to partake of the pure love of Christ which he has for us and for others). 1 Nephi 8 – 1 Nefi 8 1 And it came to pass that we had gathered together all manner of seeds of every kind, both of grain of every kind, and also of the seeds of fruit of every kind. And much spake my father concerning this thing. Hope is believing, faith is asking, knowledge is receiving, and priesthood is becoming. Does it look like cast iron or is it polished and smooth? Are there laws in heaven that allow righteous parents to advocate before the Father for their wayward children? That’s why I’m asking my questions because the symbols aren’t connecting (for me), [When they grab hold of the rod they light up, which part is not included in Nephi’s explanation (something I saw in my personal vision). Change ), You are commenting using your Twitter account. You might wonder how that can be? 3 And he saith unto me, these are the nations and kingdoms of the Gentiles. Until we learn this important lesson we are vulnerable to the confusion and temptations that may befall us as we walk the path. 1 Nephi 1. And He appeared to the survivors of this catastrophe. He would reason and preach to his sons patiently.]. Obviously it’s not just its nutritional value. This labyrinth makes the whole book worthwhile. The field is leading to the purpose of the vision. If the tree is Jesus, and the rod is revelation towards personal commandments, then how can it be that all who grab the iron rod make it to the tree? 33 And great was the multitude that did enter into that strange building. 1 Nephi 20. 14 And I looked to behold from whence it came; and I saw the head thereof a little way off; and at the head thereof I beheld your mother Sariah, and Sam, and Nephi; and they stood as if they knew not whither they should go. Or is it a slippery slope? 16 And it came to pass that they did come unto me and partake of the fruit also. [As we pray for deliverance we are blessed. It always stuck with me until just now you pointing out they never entered the building but just refused the fruit. 1 Nephi 8. 1 Nephi 3. 1 Nephi Chapter 8 « Previous Next » Book of Mormon Annotations; Chapter 8 . A stylized tree with obvious religious significance already occurs as an art motif in fourth-millennium Mesopotamia, and, by the second millennium BC, it is found everywhere within the orbit of the ancient Near Eastern oikumene, including Egypt, Greece, and the Indus civilization. If they did not, this may be evidence of other times when the boys left camp. To partake of the fruit of the Tree of Life is to receive Eternal Life and literally stand in the presence of God, which can occur in this life or the next. 1 Nephi 8:2 E adveniva que dum mi patre sojornava in le deserto, nos parlava, dicente: io faceva un sonio, o, in altere parolas, io habeva un vision. Nephi had not mentioned seeds before this time, and they may not have brought them when they left Jerusalem. [Eternal Life], 11 And it came to pass that I did go forth and partake of the fruit thereof; and I beheld that it was most sweet, above all that I ever before tasted. Is it connected to the ground/path in any way or does it float in the air? ( Log Out /  2 And the angel saith unto me, what beholdest thou? ]” Can you talk more about this? Thank you for sharing that those who seek the path will find it. [become sons or daughters of perdition]” These are 3rd and fourth state? 1 Nephi 2. KnoWhys KnoWhys on 1 Nephi 8 KnoWhys on 1 Nephi 9 KnoWhys on 1 Nephi 10 Recommended Resources Learn about the Book of Mormon with verse by verse commentaries from renowned Book of Mormon scholars like John W. Welch and Brant A. Gardner in the ScripturePlus app. I used to think it was symbolic. 1 Nephi 13. What are these activities in real life that people engage in? Was there anything about it’s visual portrayal that held symbolism? 36 And it came to pass after my father had spoken all the words of his dream or vision, which were many, he said unto us, because of these things which he saw in a vision, he exceedingly feared for Laman and Lemuel; yea, he feared lest they should be cast off from the presence of the Lord. [But they did not yet join the Church of the Devil.]. I’m praying to get where I can feel the fruit, taste the flavor of it, but it is beautiful. In the wilderness, Lehi has a vision filled with symbolism that includes the tree of life. PR], You said: ” [No person, once having grabbed hold of the rod fails to come to the tree. Daniel C. Peterson. This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. Unless they made covenants with Satan, there is a path to redemption. I’ve noticed an increased interest in things like “chakras”, meditation, yoga, and the like that are associated with other religions. Can you further define the “pressing forward” that people do before they obtain the path and grab hold of the rod of iron? [Although a vision, the fruit of the Tree of Life is a tangible real fruit, which exists at the Throne of God. What does the rod of iron look like in Lehi’s dream? The seeds, tents, and people all suggest we are seeing a large and well equipped caravan. In the later chapter Nephi tells us that the rod of iron is the word of God. [concerning those who will fall]. 25 And after they had partaken of the fruit of the tree they did cast their eyes about as if they were ashamed. Lehi felt emotionally exhausted as well because of what he learned about Egypt and the fate of his people. Il a fait l’objet de chants, de peintures et d’une multitude de discussions sur l’Évangile. 1 I, Nephi, having been a born of b goodly c parents, therefore I was d taught somewhat in all the learning of my father; and having seen many e afflictions in the course of my days, nevertheless, having been highly favored of the Lord in all my days; yea, having had a great knowledge of the goodness and the mysteries of God, therefore I make a f record of my proceedings in my days. Ye cannot serve God and mammon.”, When reading this part of the vision we assume that it was a simple glance to the spacious building, an embarrassed feeling, and then to throw it all away to follow Satan. 3 Nephi 8:3. Member Login. Posted on December 11, 2018 by Pure Revelations. 1 Nephi 16. It reminds me of the flavor of a sweet nashi with the texture of soft pineapple, wrapped in a white husk. [The beginning of each person’s spiritual journey. Tweet; Nero 8.1.1.0. He Went Forth upon the Many Waters – 1 Nephi 13:12-13 (8/1/2016) The Power of God Was with Them – 1 Nephi 13:16-19 (7/4/2016) The Gift and the Power of the Holy Ghost – 1 Nephi 13:37 (6/23/2016) Many Covenants…Have They Taken Away – 1 Nephi 13:26 (5/31/2016) They Who Shall Seek to Bring Forth My Zion – 1 Nephi 13:37 (1/21/2016) 5 And it came to pass that I saw a man, and he was dressed in a white robe; and he came and stood before me. Lehi is such an amazing man. Lehi’s dream. How long from the vision until Lehi reached his bed at his house, I wonder? Modifié par Ordonnance n°2017-1387 du 22 septembre 2017 - art. Read this week's KnoWhy connected with the Come Follow Me curriculum, and watch a video elucidating an insight in Nero 8.1.1.0 0 out of 5 based on 0 ratings. [The fruit itself plays an important role in the Everlasting Covenant.]. If so, is it the same as Nephi wrote here? Nephi had not mentioned seeds before this time, and they may not have brought them when they left Jerusalem. It said that “The building stood in the air” no solid foundation. Interestingly it was also partaking of the fruit that led to the fall. We can be sure that they did not go out into the wilderness to find their seeds, because the seeds he describes are all of domestic plants—the kind that one would find on a well-stocked landed estate. What is it about the fruit that makes it so special? [Various religions of the world.]. The Arabs, as we shall see . Post was not sent - check your email addresses! I did not see all of Lehi’s dream. I have eaten of this fruit and it is as Lehi describes. 1 Nephi 8:1 . The Spirit of God continued to burn in his soul that entire time. You said it’s a real tangible thing. 30 But, to be short in writing, behold, he saw other multitudes pressing forward; and they came and caught hold of the end of the rod of iron; and they did press their way forward, continually holding fast to the rod of iron, until they came forth and fell down [at the feet of Christ] and partook of the fruit of the tree. 1 Nephi 18. [Those who have received the gift of the Holy Ghost (grabbed hold of the rod) cannot be lost. Enter your email address to follow this blog and receive notifications of new posts by email. ], 24 And it came to pass that I beheld others pressing forward, and they came forth and caught hold of the end [Always start at the end, not the middle.] 1 Nephi 10:8 - 1 Nephi 10:22 _____ 1 Nephi 10:8 Yea, even he should go forth and cry in the wilderness: Prepare ye the way of the Lord, and make his paths straight; for there standeth one among you whom ye know not; and he is mightier than I, whose shoe’s latchet I am not worthy to unloose. This means that we are now receiving revelation for ourselves and rely upon no man to teach us but the Lord. Is it because iron ore can come from rock, which can be a symbol of Christ? 1 Nephi 8:1 E adveniva que nos habeva recolligite omne sorta de semines de omne specie, de cereales de omne specie e anque de semines de fructos de omne specie. They did no hide without making a fire until the last leg of their journey. I don’t think there are that many people reaching the tree (Jesus and a 2nd comforter experience) let alone who then fall away to the world. Is being “filled with this love” that Moroni speaks of different than partaking of the “fruit of the tree of life”, which also represents the “love of God”? 1 Nephi 11. 1 Nephi 9-10. Was it thick or thinner than a regular tubular hand rail we encounter on earth around schools and sports stadiums? I too have had dreams that make me deeply question the future and my relationships, that do not simply manifest but engender worry and joy. Dang you Richard Rich! [This the manner of those of perdition, as they mock and plot against the servants of God. Any idea why the rod is made of iron? [Various religions of the world. 1 Né 8:2 Le rêve de Léhi. You should seek a revelation regarding those details if you wish to know. Are there truths that explain things that we can learn from if one is careful to check for their truthfulness? I know many who are baptized who fall away. ], 10 And it came to pass that I beheld a tree, [representing Christ] whose fruit was desirable to make one happy. In this way everyone who grabs hold of the iron rod (and lights up) begins to be “filled with this love, which he hath bestowed upon all who are true followers of his Son” (Moroni 7:48). Nephi reports that they gathered “all manner of seeds of every kind, both of grain of every kind, and also of the seeds of fruit of every kind.” (1 Nephi 8:1). The Lord told me this is the Gift of the Holy Ghost. Book of Mormon Central. 1 Nephi 8. Lehi is told about John the Baptist who would prepare the way of the Lord. 28 And after they had tasted of the fruit “they were ashamed, because of those that were scoffing at them; and they fell away into forbidden paths and were lost. Please log in using one of these methods to post your comment: You are commenting using your WordPress.com account. Verse 1: it seems clear that they lived in the Valley for quite some time. 1 Nephi 20 – Isaiah 48. Yes, these are 4th estate, but as I’ve said before, a person does not accidentally, by simply jumping to the other side, becomes a son of perdition after tasting of the fruit. ( Log Out /  Like Liked by 1 person. This is received however the Lord gives it to us, whether directly or through scripture, or another.] Change ), You are commenting using your Google account. 22. Télécharger Windows 8.1. 1 Nephi 7. I would advise that you not read the additional books unless you have read “How to Have Your Second Comforter” and are comfortable with the content. 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